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This one's been bothering me for some time now [28 Oct 2008|08:47pm]

sarajayechan
[ mood | bored ]

Gatchaman, one of my newest fandoms, is big on het but also has a healthy slash following. The most prominent pairing is Ken and Joe, a classic boy-next-door bishounen type and a rugged bad boy.

Jun, the sole female member of the team, has a canon crush on Ken, who's pretty dense about women and relationships and therefore doesn't really return her feelings.

Now, most Ken/Joe fic I've read paints her in a sympathetic light, detailing her heartbreak and disappointment and angst upon discovering the guy she likes is into men. But there's a few stories by one author in particular that aren't so kind to her. Particularly, this one.

Not only does she react to the guys getting together in the typical shrieking banshee way, but the interaction between her and Joe smacks of double standard. His insulting of her is portrayed as "just blowing off steam", while her defending herself against said insults is portrayed as sadistic and cruel.

Lot of things wrong with this picture here, folks. :/ Poor Jun. Even worse, I've seen the author's blog and she's a pretty serious Jun basher...she even claims Jun's female fans "make themselves look like cheap sluts" which made me go WTF.

Jun is actually a very strong female presence among a team of men. She's smart, a capable fighter, an explosives expert, runs a snack bar, and has been taking care of Jinpei since he was a baby. Sure, she can be a little stereotypical sometimes, but given the time period plus Japan's view of women in general it's really not that bad. I think I'm mostly disappointed because I didn't find any bashing of Jun whatsoever until that one author. :/

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FIC and SONGVID: Leather, Licking, and Lawnmowers (original fiction) [01 Jun 2008|12:14am]

duskpeterson
Title: Leather, Licking, and Lawnmowers (with an accompanying songvid).
Author: Dusk Peterson (Website).
Category: Original fiction. Male/male erotic attraction. (Male/female platonic feelings subplot; see below under "Note.")
Rating: NC-17.
Beta readers. (Skip down to "Editors.")
Summary: Leather, Licking, and Lawnmowers takes leathersex out of its usual bars and back alleys, setting it in unexpected locations: A 5&10. A potluck. A hamburger joint. A college waltz party. Even when the leatherman who narrates these stories returns to the Eagle bar, things don't go quite the way he expected. . . .
Warning: BDSM, mainly D/s (starting with the third story), by a protagonist who has a few scruples. Just a few.
Note: This is an e-book that I'm serializing on the Web. The first story is online now, and you can also watch the songvid (booktrailer). Click on the link at the bottom of this post and scroll down a bit for the online edition. The female character (a lesbian) is in the fifth story. If you want to receive notices of when the next story is posted, please Friend my blog or join one of my e-mail lists: duskpetersonupdate (with plain-text posts of my fiction) or duskpetersonbooks (announcements only).

Thinking about it, I've decided that bringing Jell-O to a gathering of leathermen wasn't my big mistake. My big mistake was bringing it on the night that Master Trent was attending.

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REALLY impatient readers. [29 Sep 2007|10:23am]

slashedbeat_exe
[ mood | awake ]

I'm writing a Harvest Moon fanfic, and for all those who don't know what that is, it's a farming simulation game.

Now, this fic is labeled as a slash story, and it's planned for a good 22 chapters or so. So far, I have chapter 2 up on ff.net, and the only comment I get, is "I'm confused, is this gay or not? where's the yaoi?"

....I really wasn't expecting that. O_o; The slash, like any other romantic plot, comes with time. Am I supposed to slap it in your face in the first chapter? Come on, if you think logically and realistically, a homosexual relationship wouldn't just spring up out of nowhere (not usually, anyway). The "main" character of the story is Gray, who happens to have a crush on a girl named Mary. That's CANON. There's also the protagonist of the game, who's a blonde farm girl. Her role in my story is to be best friends with Gray.

I'm thinking its because he's associating himself with females first before he does any men, and that makes them confused. =\ Why can't slash guys ever start out liking a girl? Well, I don't know if that's really the mentality behind it, but I think its a pretty good guess.

In any case, I plan on continuing the way I am. There probably won't be any -homosexual- actions at all until about halfway through. They can wait.

What also annoys me is all the other slash fics in Harvest Moon. In nearly every one of them, the girlfriend is the bad guy, a real biznatch. Or the main character just can't stand this girl, when in the game he's always standing up for her. 9_9

Anyone else ever had their story written off because it had a plot?
(btw, why are posts so few and far between! Come on, folks! T^T)

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FIC: Twenty Thousand Gold Stars – A Strikethrough Novel (Original Fiction) [07 Jun 2007|10:45am]

duskpeterson
Title: Twenty Thousand Gold Stars
Author: Dusk Peterson (author's Website and author's community LJ)
Category: Original fiction; contemporary realistic novel. Main plot: Male friendship. Subplots: Male homoerotic attraction, male/female friendship, and heterosexual attraction.
Rating: R for subject matter.
Summary: White Rose has lived a double life for too long. For too many years, he has struggled alone to determine how he should handle an ethical dilemma he never wanted to face. Now, finally, he has found help online. But is it the right help?
Warnings. . . . . . . . . . Post comments about this novel at my community LJ.
Note: I didn't write this novel in response to Strikethrough '07. I wrote it in 2001. Ironically, though, I came very close in May to starting a community LJ devoted to the novel. If I had done that, the comm would almost certainly have been suspended. For that reason, and for others, it seems fitting to dedicate this novel to Strikethrough and to the lessons we learned from it.

It was a foundation of his life that he must tell no one. The first signs that this foundation would be shattered came on a windy day at the end of February, as he sat in a room lit only by the bright colors glowing from his computer screen.

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Leave the Poor Woman Alone, Please and Thank You! [02 Apr 2007|01:48pm]

muccamukk
[ mood | grumpy ]

I would like to take a moment to talk about the Ex-Wife (and her sister species the Dead Wife). I am not a fan of bashing current women to set up a slash pairing (or men to set of a het pairing, for that matter). At the very least it's lazy writing. However, I can sort of see why one would do it. The kind of bashing that really bugs me above all others it attacking back story characters that don't even need to be involved.

I'm not as familiar with animie as a lot of members, so I hope that you don't mind if I use sci fi examples here.

Take the example of Jack O'Neill from Stargate: SG-1 and his ex-wife Sara. They both loved each other very much, and despite their marriage falling apart over the death of their son, they continue to care about each other, even if they will never get back together. This is canon. Jack pined over her for two seasons, said the thought of her had given him the strength to hike out of the Iraqi desert with nine broken bones, and keeps a picture of her in his house seven years later. The one time Sara was on screen, she obviously felt the same. Sara: We were pretty great together, weren't we? Jack: We were the greatest.

So Jack loved Sara very much in canon, but they aren't ever getting back together. Why can't people leave it at that? Why, for example, in Jack/Daniel stories (and don't get my wrong, I love me my Jack/Daniel) does Jack so often reflect that this is not only the best relationship of his life, but that things with Sara pretty much sucked? I mean what's the point? What purpose does it serve? To assure the reader that this is Tru Luv? I think that I can accept that Jack loves Daniel with all of his heart, while still having had another loving relationship in the past.

The same thing happens to Carolyn in The Sentinel. She and Jim couldn't stay married without killing each other, but now that they have more space they are friends again, and after one season she left the show anyway. There is no need for Jim to reflect, or worse still say, how horrible she was to live with and that that relationship had never mattered. The man seems to enjoy dating a lot of women; he's obviously bi rather than gay; it doesn't detract from his love for Blair to have had a meaningful relationship with a woman in the past. Really.

But worse than picking on the Ex-Wife is picking on the Dead Wife. It's awful enough that these women had to bite it to provide motivation for the male main character in the first place (I am sooooo sick of girlfriends in the refrigerator). Why does anyone feel the need to say that, to use an example that acaciaonnastik mentioned, Daniel only "settled" for Sha're (the wife that he loved heart and soul and mourned for deeply) because he couldn't have Jack. The poor woman can't even defend herself anymore. Let her rest in peace (or, better still, write an AU where she's alive and still kicking ass).

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Challenge me? [26 Nov 2006|10:24am]

the_challengeer
Check out my [profile] to propose a challenge.
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Something just occured to me.... [14 Sep 2005|05:08pm]

brigitanastasia

I was reading this from metafandom.




Interestingly enough, neither the novels nor the films offer any possibilities for female readers/filmgoers to identify with strong, active or sexual women



There’s Arwen, the ethereal half-elven bride of Strider/Aragorn, whom in the films gets her one moment of glory in Fellowship, where she rides like the wind, bearing an injured Frodo, while being chased by nine Ringwraiths (there were quite a few male readers of the LotR trilogy who were upset at the liberties that director Peter Jackson took by making Arwen a pseudo-heroine).
However, much of the trilogy Arwen is a more passive character.In the films she spent more time pining for her lover, waiting for Aragorn to save the world and claim her. The kissing scenes (loves scenes – heaven forbid!)between her and Aragorn were incredibly tame and one got the feeling that Arwen had no sex life until Aragorn.





So, if Arwen is passive, she's bashed for being boring, but when they change her role to be more active, she's bashed for being a Mary Sue.

The poor girl just can't win, can she?
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[23 Jul 2005|06:21pm]

brigitanastasia

I like the idea of slash, but the meta really bugs me. Time and time again, I keep coming across people who claim to love slash because it feminist. The argument seems to go that female characters are flawed, societies view of females and female sexuality is flawed, and so writing about two guys screwing is liberating or empowering for women. It seems awfully defeatist to me.

For example...

If you internalize the male gaze enough, it seems to me, then issues of "reclaiming women's sexuality" become sort of moot - sure, you can be a proudly active sexual woman, but you have to choose one of the roles the male gaze offers you, and they're not many - virgin, mother, whore, and that leaves you where? Or is there something about performance that presupposes the male viewer? (I'm trying to imagine a sexuality that is not performative to some extent, and I'm sure it exists...I just don't want to sleep with it. *g*)

It's interesting to me as a slasher, because I think that slash, paradoxically, allows us to reject the male gaze more than other genres can. Even writing femmeslash, if you've grown up in Western society, unless you're so Kinsey 6 that you never gave a flying fuck what any man saw when he looked at you, ever - then the male gaze is there, and you can react against it or with it, but you can't escape it. But if you write slash, you can escape it, at least as it's societally scripted. You take away the object and let two subjects interact.

Is it just my imagination, or do these type of arguments actually represent a cop-out rather than a liberation? By choosing to write only about men and male romance (as a reaction to the above), isn't it just a way of pretending that these percieved flaws in female characters don't exist? Is it being suggested that women should react to portrayals of females we don't like by cutting them out? That's just ignoring the problem, not fixing it.

Since when was slash The One True Sexual Liberation? Are het and femslash writers doomed to have an unhealthy sexuality or something?

I don't get it. The idea that woman write slash because it's hot actually makes a hell of a lot more sense then the idea that it's a feminist thing.

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Uh oh, someone has either read too much doujinshii or else! [11 May 2005|10:04am]

dropsofgleam
[ mood | bitchy ]

As msmarvel1 requested, I'm posting this crap that I found online while searching for info for a Gundam Wing RPG I'm in.

There's this girl who hates Relena. She's even psychotic about that, I think. Well, whatever, one idiot I want and know how to avoid. But while searching in Google, I found a certain part of her GW page... and it made me pale with RAGE.

Her comments are in italic, my bitching is in bold.

I never EVER thought that someone could be THAT stupid *and* that mysoginistCollapse )

I'm highly, REALLY highly tempted to mail the bitch those opinions of mine. But heck - I think it'll be most likely a loss of time and braincells. And not only I have too many school stuff to do, I would end up dying of the st00pid.

Maybe I'll do it later. But right now, I would become one of the worst bitches EVER. And I love myself too much for that.

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[sigh] Second verse, same as the first ... [10 May 2005|07:42am]

msmarvel1
[ mood | furious ]

Reading my "friendsfriends" list is probably a bad thing.

I must admit that I do understand the appeal, and like the fact that slash is for the most part about women turning men into sexual objects. I see how it can be good for women, especially with some radical fringes of feminism saying stuff about how the penis is inherintley evil. And it is cool to see men as objects of desire.

But in slash, men are still the DESIRERS. They're still the ones wanting/leering over/fucking other men. Of course, that man is written by a woman, but he's still a man!

And once again: it does not change ANY perceptions of women. Except maybe the perception that women like porn/can like two gay men together. But even that I find specious - most people I meet in every day life are still shocked by it. And how does that help ... at ALL?

And honestly, I DON'T like to think of everything I do as feminist. Of course I am a feminist. I always will be a feminist whether I'm sitting in a women's studies class or sleeping. It's part of who I am, but that doesn't mean that I'm feminist BECAUSE I'm sleeping. I'm not feminist because I write slash/yaoi, I am a feminist WHO writes slash/yaoi.

And as long as I'm going to find slash/yaoi writers justifying female-bashing, justifying the wonder of a "world without women" as if a naked female is such a horrific sight that we need to keep it from our poor feminist eyes, justify slash/yaoi on the basis that men just make more interesting characters I'm probably NOT going to find slash/yaoi inherently feminist.

I'm still a feminist when I have sex, y'know. It doesn't matter that a guy is looking at me. Seriously, why does that bother people? You can't get rid of male desire. Just ... jeez. Slactivist hypocrites.

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What's so bad about being an uke? [07 Apr 2005|12:09pm]

msmarvel1
[ mood | on my high horse ]

I've been hearing around that one of the reasons that yaoi/slash is the ultimate in feminism [HURL!] is because it allows women to have control over their sexuality which they do not get in real life. Hoo-okay. Let me analyze this.

One of the things that's always been kind of fun about slash/yaoi stories is that they're pretty much porn/romance that's by women, for women. In that sense, slash/yaoi could in its own way be seen as an outlet for feminine sexual fantasies, but so could het or femmeslash written by a woman. Now, a lot of others would argue that het isn't a true exploration, because men are always dominant. If they're not on top, they have social norms that allows for their dominance [sighs and shakes her head]. And femmeslash? It's really about male voyerism anyway and all it does is keep women slaves to male fantasy.

The femmeslash argument I totally don't understand. One, if you write slash that makes you a flaming hypocrite and two, who cares who reads your fic? But the argument about het really confuses me, especially in yaoi when there's usually a designated "seme" and "uke." In fact, a lot of times this designation is encouraged, as it gives the woman someone to identify with but still lust after at the same time. Yet when those "uke" qualities are put onto a character with breasts and a vagina, its suddenly sexist and wrong and oppresses women.

WHY?

What's so bad about being an uke, anyway? Hell, for the most part I'm one. I like to be pleasured by my partner, to feel like I'm giving myself up to someone who loves me and cares about me. It's what I like and it's what I feel my body likes. Sure, submitting can be seen as an act of defeat, of being overrun by somebody stronger than you. However, it can also be an act of selflessness, of getting pleasure out of seeing your partner in pleasure. (I've been enough on the other side of the D/s fence to know that much, anyway.)

People say this is fine in yaoi/slash as the two male characters would already have "equality." For one, this isn't always true. Take the two guys in my icon. They may be both guys, but there's clearly an age separation. Also, it certainly leaves female subs out in the cold. If she wants to submit, isn't submission taking control of her sexuality? Isn't being a top when she's not just giving in to a different sort of perception?

There are cruel, brutal men (and women) out there who are willing to take advantage of weaker people. But in the fantasy sex stories that are het/slash/femmeslash, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE THERE. If you really feel like you need to hide your submissive urges in a male shell, I won't tell you not to. But if that's what you're doing, it's not feminist. It could be fun, it could be sexy, it could be an outlet for you that you really need, but it's not feminist. Writing a male submitting to another male will not change anyone's minds about whether females can be equal to males or whether females can do what they want in bed - it just won't.

And if you feel that you can't submit because submission is currently only acceptable in a male, then maybe you need to look at yourself for a bit.

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[dusts off comm] [17 Mar 2005|12:48pm]

msmarvel1
[ mood | confused ]

These astute observations on my friendslist that the "yaoi feminist, yuri sexist" is utterhogwash makes my heart smile, but I've got a different issue for ze folks.

I recently watched the first disc of Gravitation. I seem to hear CONSTANTLY that fangirls hate Miaka and Usagi for being morons, not taking stuff seriously, and making outright stupid decisions.

Yet in Gravitation Shuichi overreacts to everything, is constantly late, sleeps when he should be preparing for a major concert that could make or break his greatest dream, and spends time that he should be writing songs chasing a guy who said something nasty about his lyrics. And how does he get the guy's attention? HE JUMPS IN FRONT OF SAID GUY'S SPEEDING CAR IN THE RAIN! And yet Shuichi = good character. Miaka = stupid bitch.

Does anyone know why ANYONE would think this way? For now I'm chalking it up to "blinded by the gay" but I'm genuinely curious.

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[blink] There's fifty of us! [03 Apr 2004|11:37am]

msmarvel1
[ mood | curious ]

Well, come on! Let's start talking!

Does anyone want to do something similar to what was done on hated_character for awhile and put up women who you hate see get the short end in slash fanfics? I know Relena and others have been talked about to death, but I know a lot of us have probably been around less well known and probably have a lot to say about those poor girls too.

Here's my list:

Read more...Collapse )

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Hello! [15 Mar 2004|09:01pm]

sliver_n_glod
I'm a long-time slasher who's just starting to delve into femmeslash. I hope it's okay to post pictures here---if not, let me know and I'll take my post down.

This is from a story I'm half-close-to-being-done writing about Princess Toadstool. WARNING: May contain nipples!

Well, wouldn't your tail be wagging?Collapse )
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Grrrrrrr!!! [08 Mar 2004|11:33pm]

msmarvel1
[ mood | angry ]

Crap. Crap, crap, crap and crap.

This is a stupid argument. Stupid, stupid argument and frankly we should be way beyond this nonsense.

Ohhhh. "There aren't any strong women! I HAVE to write only yaoi because there just aren't any women! No, no! Don't provide examples, but listen to my examples because they prove my point but don't use yours to prove your point. Stupid women with their stupid love interests. Love interests make women lame, although I wish that MY favorite character had a love interest."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!! [bangs head repeatedly against the wall]

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(Crossposted to hated_character) This must be a joke. [29 Feb 2004|06:27pm]

sarajayechan
[ mood | amused ]

Annoying Anime Girl Quiz

Joke or no joke, I have a hard time taking it seriously. :P

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[21 Feb 2004|07:47am]

shan_c_koneko
I am going to plug a new community that is related to this one in part.

smart_guylovin

I apologize for the eltist-sounding username. This community was created when I was just waking up, and I was dizzy.
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State of the Community Address [30 Jan 2004|01:01pm]

msmarvel1
[ mood | hungry ]

Hey everyone! This is msmarvel1 just making a moderator post here. I realized that it's been almost eleven months since I started this community. And I have to say that I've been pleased with the results so far. :-) I remember expecting about ten members when I first started writing out my ideas for the website in Creative Writing I class last February. Now we have almost 50. Cool! (And yeah, that's small compared to a lot of communities, but I recognize that this community is pretty much an interest group within an interest group.)

I've made a few small changes to the community. First, I've added sarajayechan's Miaka icon to the community icons to reflect the anime/manga slant that this community has taken. (Relena would probably be the more obvious choice but... eh. I know Miaka. I don't know Relena. Sorry, folks. :-)) Also, I've pimped hated_character on the community info since the communities occasionally overlap. (Which I hear does annoy people who don't like the double posts on their friends lists, but I don't mind it so I'll never yell at anyone for it.)

When I started out, I intended this community to be a sort of place to vent, and maybe a fourm to try to change things, as well as promote stories that go against the bashing grain. (And rip down the bad ones too.) For the most part, I think that this community is living up to its goals and mostly meeting the expectations. I think my only real surprise was how anime-centered it became. I honestly thought I'd get more people complaining about Queen Amidala's bad rap from Star Wars than Relena in Gundam Wing, mostly because those were the slash communities I tended to hang out in more. Not that I mind it, though. However, it does make me wonder if I should have called the community heroinesofyaoi. ;-)

At any rate, I think things have been going well, but does anybody have anything they'd like to see different? Questions/Comments/Complaints? I'd like to hear from you now. And if not, hey! Tell me if you're enjoying this place or not. I'd love to hear and I have a pretty thick skin when it comes to this sort of criticism. :-)

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SATIRE!!! FEEL THE WONDER!!! [14 Jan 2004|01:40pm]

msmarvel1
[ mood | sarcastic ]

It's just plain clear at this point that women just aren't very successful as characters. No matter what, they seem to be hated at every turn. It's clear then, that we must rule out all bad character traits and from what's left, create the perfect character types for all future entertainment.

First of all, women, under no circumstances, can be weak. Nobody wants to hear whining or moping or bitching or complaints about someone's period on adventures (and of course we know that men never do these sorts of things). So weak is totally out. We don't have time to deal with those types of problems.

That doesn't mean that women can be strong. Oh no. After all, strong women are obviously just being strong because they're uber-feminazis who want to opress men. Or they're lesbians. Or both. And we don't need either of those. So no strong women either. Besides, those types of women are bitches. Or villianesses and we don't need those either.

Also, women can't be sexy. No big voluptous breasts. No long flowing hair. No sexy clothes. This is all just opression and it turns women into sex objects In fact, better rule out cute, too. After all, sweet little cute women are just sexist portrayls of what misogynists think they're like (even if they are created by women), and they're weak anyway.

In fact, while we're at it. No more girlfriends. After all, everyone knows that girlfriends are just clingy, soul-sucking bitches that get in the way of the real story. (Whether that story is venturing on a quest or venturing into another guy's pants). And even if they aren't... well, then they're just bowing into the patriarchy's idea that all women need is a man, and nobody wants that.

So now, with all of that data, I have computed some images of what the ideal women will look like: BEHOLD!!!

Okay, maybe a little more work is in order...

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